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Òåìà: Re: New Roland V-Stage
Âðåìÿ: 25.01.2025 12:45 |
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>Ìíîãèå ðàáîòàþùèå â êàâåð- è òðèáüþò-áåíäàõ àìåðèêàíñêèå è åâðîïåéñêèå êëàâèøíèêè èñïîëüçóþò ñîôòîâûé ñåòàï. Íó õîòü íà îäíîãî ìîæíî ãëÿíóòü. Ðåàëüíî èíòåðåñíî!  Èõ æå ïî ñëîâàì ãóðó - êîðèôåÿ 90%, è 10% ïðîñòî îòñòàëûõ è ãëóïûõ, èãðàþùèõ íà çàïëàòêàõ. Âîò íàïðèìåð ëèâ êîíöåðò ìîäíåéøåé , îäíîé èç ñàìûõ âûñîêîîïëà÷èâàåìûõ ïåâèö èç ÑØÀ Òåéëîð Ñâèôò. Òîëïà êëàâèøíèêîâ ñ çàïëàòêàìè è íèêîìó íåíóæíûìè äîðîãîñòîÿùèìè êîðîáêàìè. è íèãäå íå ñâåòèòñÿ íàäêóøåííîå ÿáëî÷êî |
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Òåìà: Re: New Roland V-Stage
Âðåìÿ: 25.01.2025 12:53 |
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Ïðåêðàñíî ïîíèìàþ -ìîëîäåæü âûëîæèëà îò 200 áàêèíñêèõ çà ïîñåùåíèå êîíöåðòà, òàíöóþò, îòðûâàþòñÿ, âäðóã ÷àðóþùèå çâóêè ïðåðûâàþòñÿ è êëàâèøíèê ãðèò - ùà ïîäîæäèòå, ó ìåíÿ êîìï çàâèñ èëè ñýìïë íå ãðóçèòñÿ, ùà ðàçáåðåìñÿ, ñïîêîéíî . Ïîïðàâüòå ìåíÿ åñëè ÷òî èíòåðåñíî, ÿ áîëüøå çâóêà÷ êîìïüþòåðùèê ÷åì êëàâèøíèê , íî çà 25 ëåò ðàáîòû íàñòðàèâàë ñèíòåçû ïðåäîñòàòî÷íî |
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Òåìà: Re: New Roland V-Stage
Âðåìÿ: 25.01.2025 13:02 |
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Íàâðàë ïðî ÿáëî÷êî, êàþñü, áóìàæêè íà íåì ëåæàò | |
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Òåìà: Re: New Roland V-Stage
Âðåìÿ: 25.01.2025 14:27 |
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https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Gig+P erformer | |
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Òåìà: Re: New Roland V-Stage
Âðåìÿ: 25.01.2025 17:52 |
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> Íó õîòü íà îäíîãî ìîæíî ãëÿíóòü. Ðåàëüíî èíòåðåñíî! Íó âîò íåñêîëüêî ïðèìåðîâ èç ôåéñáóêà. Çäåñü ìû âèäèì êàê ãèáðèäíûå, òàê è ÷èñòî ñîôòîâûå ñåòàïû. https://www.facebook.com/groups/1096679527422725/p osts/2034252716998730/ https://www.facebook.com/groups/1096679527422725/p osts/1995982970825705/ https://www.facebook.com/groups/1096679527422725/p osts/1990460511377951/ https://www.facebook.com/groups/1096679527422725/p osts/1604742059949800/ https://www.facebook.com/groups/1096679527422725/p osts/1676681562755849/ |
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Òåìà: Re: New Roland V-Stage
Âðåìÿ: 25.01.2025 18:52 |
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Moscow Sax-Alto,Tenor, Roland XPS-30, Roland XPS-10 
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>Íó âîò íåñêîëüêî ïðèìåðîâ èç ôåéñáóêà. Ýòîò êîíòåíò ñåé÷àñ íåäîñòóïåí Âîçìîæíî, âëàäåëåö óäàëèë êîíòåíò èëè îãðàíè÷èë äîñòóï ê íåìó. |
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«Äèïëîìàò-ýòî ÷åëîâåê, êîòîðûé ìîæåò ïîñëàòü âàñ íà #&# òàêèì îáðàçîì, ÷òî âû ñ ïðåäâêóøåíèåì áóäåòå æäàòü ïóòåøåñòâèÿ...
(Charles de Gaulle)». https://vk.com/d.j.koks |
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Òåìà: Re: New Roland V-Stage
Âðåìÿ: 25.01.2025 20:13 |
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>https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Gig+ P erformer È ÷åãî? Ãäå ìíîãîòûñÿ÷íûå ãèãè íó èëè õîòÿ áû êëóáû? |
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Òåìà: Re: New Roland V-Stage
Âðåìÿ: 25.01.2025 20:19 |
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Ëþñü, ïðîñòîé âîïðîñ ,òîëüêî íå ñâèñòè - íàèáîëüøàÿ àóäèòîðèÿ ïåðåä êîòîðûé òû èãðàë îäèí èëè â ñîñòàâå ãðóïïû? | |
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Òåìà: Re: New Roland V-Stage
Âðåìÿ: 25.01.2025 20:32 |
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Çàáàðàë..  Ñòàðàÿ ìóçûêàíòñêàÿ áàéêà äëÿ ëþáîïûòíîãî Ðîìû…)): Ïî ñòóïåíüêàì ðàéîííîãî ÄÊ øóìíîé êîìïàíèåé ïîäíèìàåòñÿ êîíöåðòíàÿ áðèãàäà ñòîëè÷íûõ ìóçûêàíòîâ, ñ èíñòðóìåíòàìè, êîñòþìàìè, àïïàðàòàìè. Ó ïàðàäíûõ äâåðåé ÄÊ ëþáîïûòñòâóþùàÿ îðàâà ìåñòíûõ öûãàíÿò (ñî ñìåøêîì: -äÿäåíüêè, Âû àðòèñòû? Äÿäåíüêè ãîðäåëèâî: -àðòèñòû/ìóçûêàíòû! Öûãàíÿòà ñ õîõîòêîì óáåãàÿ: íó òîãäà «ïåðåêóâûðêíèòåñü» çû Ðîìà, â Ðîññèè (â ìèðå) ìíîãèå òûñÿ÷è ìóçûêàíòîâ, ñèäÿùèõ çà îðêåñòðîâûìè è ñòóäèéíûìè êîíñîëÿìè, ñ êàðàíäàøàìè çà ïàðòèòóðíûìè íîòîíîñöàìè, çåëåíåþùèìè îò íàïðÿæåíèÿ â äîìàøíèõ äåìî ñòóäèÿõ, çà àêêîìïàíèðóþùèìè êîìó-òî èíñòðóìåíòàìè, ïðîèãðûâàÿ è çàïèñûâàÿ êàæäûé äåíü òîííû, âñåãäà ðàçíîãî ìóçûêàëüíîãî ìàòåðèàëà, ó êîòîðûõ ìóçûêà ïðîôåññèÿ, è ó êîãî ïðîñòî óâëå÷åíèå. È íèêîìó èç íèõ íå ïðèõîäèò â ãîëîâó ÷òîáû ýòèì ïðåä êåì-òî, è äëÿ ÷åãî-òî «ïåðåêóâûðêèâàòüñÿ»… Ðîìà, ïðîñüáà èõ «ïåðåêóâûðêíóòüñÿ» ÷òîáû ïîêàçàòü, ëþáèòåëüñêèé òåñò îò íå íàáðàâøèõ óìà þíöîâ.. Íåãîæå ïðèñòàâàòü… |
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Òåìà: Re: New Roland V-Stage
Âðåìÿ: 25.01.2025 21:30 |
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>Ðîìà, â Ðîññèè (â ìèðå) ìíîãèå òûñÿ÷è ìóçûêàíòîâ, ñèäÿùèõ çà îðêåñòðîâûìè è ñòóäèéíûìè êîíñîëÿìè, ñ êàðàíäàøàìè çà ïàðòèòóðíûìè íîòîíîñöàìè, çåëåíåþùèìè îò íàïðÿæåíèÿ â äîìàøíèõ äåìî ñòóäèÿõ, çà àêêîìïàíèðóþùèìè êîìó-òî èíñòðóìåíòàìè, ïðîèãðûâàÿ è çàïèñûâàÿ êàæäûé äåíü òîííû, âñåãäà ðàçíîãî ìóçûêàëüíîãî ìàòåðèàëà, ó êîòîðûõ ìóçûêà ïðîôåññèÿ, è ó êîãî ïðîñòî óâëå÷åíèå Ëþñü, âîò è êàê ðàç äîáðûé òåáå ñîâåò - çàíèìàéñÿ íîòàìè, íàáèâàé èõ â ñâîé Ìàê áóê, òû÷êàé öûãàíî÷êó íà VSTøêàõ è íå ó÷è â ðàçëè÷íîé ìåðå ïðîôåññèîíàëüíûõ ìóçûêàíòîâ, êîíöåðòèðóþùèõ íà ðàçëè÷íûõ ïëîùàäêàõ êàê è íà ÷åì èì èãðàòü  ýòîì òû íå îïû íå ïîíèìàåøü è íå ðàçáèðàåøüñÿ..
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Òåìà: Re: New Roland V-Stage
Âðåìÿ: 26.01.2025 16:59 |
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> Ýòîò êîíòåíò ñåé÷àñ íåäîñòóïåí Ïîíÿòíî. Ýòî ïîñòû èç ãðóïïû ñ îãðàíè÷åííûì äîñòóïîì. Íó òîãäà âîò ñêðèíøîòû. |
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Òåìà: Re: New Roland V-Stage
Âðåìÿ: 26.01.2025 19:09 |
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Äà ïîíÿòíî ÷òî åñòü ëþäè êîòîðûå èãðàþò íà ãèáðèäàõ è ÷èñòîì ñîôòå, ýòîãî íå îðèöàë. Íî ÿ òî ïðèâîäèë ïðèìåðû ñåòàïîâ êëàâèøíèêîâ ïåðâîé ìèðîâîé äåñÿòêè èñïîëíèòåëåé ìèðà. Èíòåðåñíî êòî õîòü êàê òî èçâåñòåí, èãðàåò îòâåòñòâåííûå, äåíåæíûå êîíöåðòû íà ñîôòå, à íå ñìóðü â ïîäâàëå ïåðåä òðåìÿ çðèòåëÿìè - òåùåé, ìàìîé è æåíîé. | |
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Òåìà: Re: New Roland V-Stage
Âðåìÿ: 26.01.2025 19:13 |
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äà è ó ýòèõ ñîôòðîíùèêîâ êîíòðîëëåðàìè âûñòóïàþò äîâîëüíî ñîëèäíûå èíñòðóìåíòû Êîðãè, Íîðäû. Òî åñòü â ëþáîé ìîìåíò ìîæíî ïîäñòðàõîâàòüñÿ ;). | |
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Òåìà: Re: New Roland V-Stage
Âðåìÿ: 26.01.2025 19:24 |
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×èòàë íà ôîðóìàõ ïðî back-up keyboard. Ïî÷åìó á íå âîçèòü ñ ñîáîé è çàïàñíîé êîìïëåêò: íîóò, àóäèî-èíòåðôåéñ, êîììóòàöèÿ?.. Âîò òîãäàøíèé top of K-Pop. Ñîáñòâåííî ìóçûêàíòû âûñòóïàþò. https://vk.com/video618173178_456239234?t=28m57s |
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Òåìà: Re: New Roland V-Stage
Âðåìÿ: 26.01.2025 19:25 |
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Íà îäíîì èç ñêðèíøîòîâ ïîíðàâèëîñü, ÷òî ÷åë äîâîëåí òåì, êàê ñìèêøèðîâàë ñîôò ñ "æåëåçêîé" ) | |
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Òåìà: Re: New Roland V-Stage
Âðåìÿ: 26.01.2025 19:26 |
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Îíà òàì íå ïðîñòî êîíòðîëëåð ) | |
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Òåìà: Re: New Roland V-Stage
Âðåìÿ: 26.01.2025 20:51 |
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> Èíòåðåñíî êòî õîòü êàê òî èçâåñòåí, èãðàåò îòâåòñòâåííûå, äåíåæíûå êîíöåðòû íà ñîôòå, à íå ñìóðü â ïîäâàëå ïåðåä òðåìÿ çðèòåëÿìè - òåùåé, ìàìîé è æåíîé. Íó âîò, íàïðèìåð, ñ ïîñëåäíåãî ñêðèíøîòà - ãðóïïà íàçûâàåòñÿ Citizen Dan. Ýòî òðèáüþò Steely Dan èç Äåíâåðà, Êîëîðàäî. ß íàñ÷èòàëà íà ñöåíå îäèííàäöàòü ÷åëîâåê.  çàëå, ìÿãêî ãîâîðÿ, íåñêîëüêî áîëüøå.  Ïîêà ÿ çàíèìàëàñü ïîèñêîì ïîäõîäÿùåãî âèäåî, ìíå ñòàëî èíòåðåñíî, à äåéñòâèòåëüíî èãðàåò ëè íà VST êòî-ëèáî èç êëàâèøíèêîâ ïåðâîãî ýøåëîíà, è ÿ ñïðîñèëà ñîâåòà ó ChatGPT. Ðåçóëüòàò îøåëîìèë. 1. Jordan Rudess (Dream Theater) Setup: Hybrid system combining hardware (like Korg Kronos or Yamaha MODX) with software (often VSTs hosted on Gig Performer or Apple Mainstage). VSTs: Frequently uses Spectrasonics Omnisphere, Keyscape, and Ivory Piano. Known for pushing technological boundaries in both studio and live setups. 2. Cory Henry (Snarky Puppy, Solo Artist) Setup: Primarily uses hybrid systems blending classic analog keyboards (e.g., Moog, Hammond) with virtual instruments. VST Hosts: Likely employs software hosts for layering and flexibility, although he often opts for hardware instruments as a foundation. 3. Rick Wakeman (Yes) Setup: Known for massive keyboard rigs blending vintage analog synthesizers with modern digital tools. While not purely VST-based, Wakeman incorporates software and controllers into his live setups. 4. Tom Brislin (Kansas, Yes, Renaissance, Solo Artist) Setup: Mix of hardware and software. VST Hosts: Frequently uses VSTs live for flexibility, integrating them seamlessly with hardware keyboards like Nord or Yamaha. 5. Jacob Collier Setup: A true multi-instrumentalist who uses technology extensively in his live and studio work. VST Hosts: Combines hardware controllers (e.g., ROLI Seaboard, Akai) with software like Ableton Live for hosting virtual instruments. 6. Adam Holzman (Steven Wilson Band) Setup: Combines traditional synths (e.g., Moog, Prophet) with software setups. VST Hosts: Uses software instruments for sound layering and flexibility during live performances. 7. Matt Johnson (Jamiroquai) Setup: Blends analog hardware (e.g., Roland, Moog) with modern VSTs. Known for integrating plugins like Arturia’s suite and Spectrasonics instruments into live performances. 8. Lisa Coleman (The Revolution, Wendy & Lisa, Session Work) Setup: Integrates hardware synths with VSTs for sound design and live performances. Likely uses Mainstage or similar hosts in her workflows. 9. Mark Kelly (Marillion) Setup: Uses a hybrid rig of software VSTs (including Arturia plugins) hosted on platforms like Mainstage and Gig Performer alongside hardware. 10. Marco Parisi (MIDI tech ambassador, live performer) Setup: Known for demonstrating software-based rigs (Camelot Pro, Ableton Live) combined with expressive controllers like ROLI Seaboard. Honorable Mentions: David Rosenthal (Billy Joel): Uses custom VST setups along with hardware synths like Kronos for live gigs. Mike Lindup (Level 42): Frequently integrates virtual instruments into his rig. Bill Laurance (Snarky Puppy): Known for blending software-based setups with acoustic elements. Why These Artists Choose VST Hosts Flexibility: They can quickly switch patches or entire setups during a live performance. Powerful Sound Libraries: Access to high-quality sounds that surpass traditional hardware synths. Portability: Fewer heavy instruments to transport. Customization: Ability to layer and create unique sounds that are hard to replicate with hardware alone. If you're considering this route for your performances, these artists' setups can provide inspiration for crafting your hybrid or software-based rig! |
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Òåìà: Re: New Roland V-Stage
Âðåìÿ: 26.01.2025 22:37 |
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>Îíà òàì íå ïðîñòî êîíòðîëëåð ) Î ÷åì è ðå÷ü
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Òåìà: Re: New Roland V-Stage
Âðåìÿ: 26.01.2025 22:47 |
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>Jordan Rudess (Dream Theater) >Setup: Hybrid system combining hardware (like Korg Kronos or Yamaha MODX) with software (often VSTs hosted on Gig Performer or Apple Mainstage). >VSTs: Frequently uses Spectrasonics Omnisphere, Keyscape, and Ivory Piano. Ó âñåõ ñåðüåçíûõ ìóçûêàíòîâ ïëàíà Æîðû è Âýéêìàíà êîìáàéíû è ãèáðèäû, òî åñòü êàêèå òî ñîëèäíûå êëàâèøè ïëþñ ñîôòîâûå ýôôåêòû, óäîáíî è ïîíÿòíî. ïëþñ ó íèõ åñòü âîçìîæíîñòü èìåòü òîëïó òåõíèêîâ, êîòîðûå âñå íàñòðîÿò, ïîäêëþ÷àò, çàìåíÿò |
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Òåìà: Re: New Roland V-Stage
Âðåìÿ: 27.01.2025 13:47 |
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Òåìà: Re: New Roland V-Stage
Âðåìÿ: 27.01.2025 14:25 |
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>Çà¸ðçàë... Òàê âûíü, çà÷åì îí òåáå? |
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Òåìà: Re: New Roland V-Stage
Âðåìÿ: 30.01.2025 04:06 |
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https://www.avito.ru/moskva/muzykalnye_instrumenty /roland_v-stage_predzakaz_iz_ssha_4774031625 Íàëåòàé, òîðîïèñü, ïîêóïàé æèâîïÈñü! |
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«Äèïëîìàò-ýòî ÷åëîâåê, êîòîðûé ìîæåò ïîñëàòü âàñ íà #&# òàêèì îáðàçîì, ÷òî âû ñ ïðåäâêóøåíèåì áóäåòå æäàòü ïóòåøåñòâèÿ...
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Òåìà: Re: New Roland V-Stage
Âðåìÿ: 30.01.2025 04:21 |
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Òû-ûê-ñ... Çíàêîìûé êóïèë çà ïîä ïÿòüñîò Íîðä Stage 4 (88)! Îò Ðîëàíäà äîðîæå? Ýò-òî îíè çðÿ... |
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Òåìà: Re: New Roland V-Stage
Âðåìÿ: 30.01.2025 04:23 |
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Nord is the lord, as I imagine. Ðîëàíäû íà ñöåíå âèäíû, íî èõ Fantom X, Fantom-G... Öèôðîâûå Þïèòåðû... |
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Òåìà: Re: New Roland V-Stage
Âðåìÿ: 30.01.2025 04:24 |
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Íó íåïðàâ ÿ, ÷òî ëè: êðàñíîå — âëèÿíèå Íîðäà? |
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Òåìà: Re: New Roland V-Stage
Âðåìÿ: 30.01.2025 04:26 |
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À æàëü. Ïðèìåðíî êàê êîãäà ÌîäåíÒîêèí ïåðåñòàëè áûòü âïåðåäè è ñòàëè ïëåñòèñü ïîçàäè (â ïëàíå çàäàâàíèÿ ñòèëÿ). |
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Òåìà: Re: New Roland V-Stage
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Ñî ìíîé âñ¸ ïðîñòî: ïîêà ÐîëÀíäèêè íå ñíèìóò ñ ñåêâåíñîðà Ôàíòîìîâ îãðàíè÷åíèÿ íà êîëè÷åñòâî òàêòîâ, ÿ èõ íå ïîíèìàþ. |
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Òåìà: Re: New Roland V-Stage
Âðåìÿ: 30.01.2025 04:30 |
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Ó âàñ åñòü âñÿ òåõíîëîãèÿ, âñå íàðàáîòêè, òàê ÷¸ çà õðåíü?! |
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Òåìà: Re: New Roland V-Stage
Âðåìÿ: 30.01.2025 04:30 |
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"À âîò òàêèå ìû óøë¸ïêè!" ? Íó, âñåõ áëàã! |
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Òåìà: Re: New Roland V-Stage
Âðåìÿ: 30.01.2025 04:33 |
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Ïîäîçðåâàþ, ó ìîåé íîâîé (ñòàðîé) Êàñè çà äâåíàøêó ó ñåêâîíöåðà íåò îãðàíè÷åíèÿ íà êîëè÷åñòâî òàêòîâ. Ðîëàíä? (I just don't get it!) Do you hate your customers? It looks like you do... |
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Òåìà: Re: New Roland V-Stage
Âðåìÿ: 30.01.2025 22:09 |
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Åù¸ èíôà ïî Roland V-Stage https://forums.rolandclan.com/viewtopic.php?f=65&t =73384 |
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Òåìà: Re: New Roland V-Stage
Âðåìÿ: 30.01.2025 23:13 |
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Moscow Sax-Alto,Tenor, Roland XPS-30, Roland XPS-10
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Âðÿä ëè ïî öåíå íîðäà, ýòîò ðîëàíä, áóäåò ïîëüçîâàòüñÿ áåøåíûì ñïðîñîì...Íîðä âñ¸ òàêè áîëåå ðàñêðó÷åí â ýòîì ñåãìåíòå. | |
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«Äèïëîìàò-ýòî ÷åëîâåê, êîòîðûé ìîæåò ïîñëàòü âàñ íà #&# òàêèì îáðàçîì, ÷òî âû ñ ïðåäâêóøåíèåì áóäåòå æäàòü ïóòåøåñòâèÿ...
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